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Discussion: Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 6, Serenade for Strings - Gatti

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Post by Peter April 8, 2006 (1 of 11)
Edvin, are the violins divided, at least in the symphony?

Post by tommwi April 8, 2006 (2 of 11)
Peter said:

Edvin, are the violins divided, at least in the symphony?

yes they are

Post by Peter April 9, 2006 (3 of 11)
tommwi said:

yes they are

That's good to hear. Thank you for the information. And welcome to sa-cd.net. I've seen you as a frequent contributor on DG's community pages.

The reason why I asked is due to Mravinsky's stereo recording having divided violins which is pretty well essential for the music to make sense in the last movement where the theme moves to and fro from first to second violins. (Boult and Kubelik, to mention but two, also divided violins in nearly all their performances and recordings, one extraordinary exception being Boult's recordings of Elgar's symphonies for Lyrita.)

DG Japan was going to issue at least some of Mravinsky's Tchaikovsky Symphonies in SACD format; have they ever appeared? Some members of this forum may have caught Piers Burton-Page talk on the BBC's "CD Review" about Tchaikovsky symphonies a few weeks ago when he bravely referred to the Mravinsky recordings as having "historic" interest and vastly preferred the new recordings by Gergiev and Gatti, which are, of course, both available on SACD. What a pity DG has reissued the Mravinsky on two CDs instead of three, necessitating a split in the 5th symphony. Having grown up with Fricsay and Mravinsky, I will now add Gatti to supplement these two highlights of the 50s and 60s, and hope like Edvin, the cycle will be completed and include Manfred.

Coincidentally, this was broadcast yesterday:

"Twenty Minutes - Interval features for Performance on 3 SAT" is what to look for on BBC Radio 3's listen again Radio Player. It's an amusing and informative programme about aural illusions which at least some here will enjoy. (Click on advance 5 mins to skip the opera if you need to, and connect headphones/earspeakers to your computer when it's suggested.)

Post by flyingdutchman April 9, 2006 (4 of 11)
Peter said:

That's good to hear. Thank you for the information. And welcome to sa-cd.net. I've seen you as a frequent contributor on DG's community pages.

The reason why I asked is due to Mravinsky's stereo recording having divided violins which is pretty well essential for the music to make sense in the last movement where the theme moves to and fro from first to second violins. (Boult and Kubelik, to mention but two, also divided violins in nearly all their performances and recordings, one extraordinary exception being Boult's recordings of Elgar's symphonies for Lyrita.)

DG Japan was going to issue at least some of Mravinsky's Tchaikovsky Symphonies in SACD format; have they ever appeared? Some members of this forum may have caught Piers Burton-Page talk on the BBC's "CD Review" about Tchaikovsky symphonies a few weeks ago when he bravely referred to the Mravinsky recordings as having "historic" interest and vastly preferred the new recordings by Gergiev and Gatti, which are, of course, both available on SACD. What a pity DG has reissued the Mravinsky on two CDs instead of three, necessitating a split in the 5th symphony. Having grown up with Fricsay and Mravinsky, I will now add Gatti to supplement these two highlights of the 50s and 60s, and hope like Edvin, the cycle will be completed and include Manfred.

Coincidentally, this was broadcast yesterday:

"Twenty Minutes - Interval features for Performance on 3 SAT" is what to look for on BBC Radio 3's listen again Radio Player. It's an amusing and informative programme about aural illusions which at least some here will enjoy. (Click on advance 5 mins to skip the opera if you need to, and connect headphones/earspeakers to your computer when it's suggested.)

Sadly, the Mravinsky never made the final cut in the Japanese SACD releases. They were 3 SACDs I was gladly going to buy.

Post by akiralx April 9, 2006 (5 of 11)
flyingdutchman said:

Sadly, the Mravinsky never made the final cut in the Japanese SACD releases. They were 3 SACDs I was gladly going to buy.

I've got the Originals RBCD new release - on my Stax earspeaker system there seems to be slight overload in a few passages in the Fourth symphony. Not heard the others yet.

Post by tommwi April 10, 2006 (6 of 11)
Peter said:

And welcome to sa-cd.net. I've seen you as a frequent contributor on DG's community pages.

Thanks for this welcome. I'm not sure I can contribute that much though...

/Tommy

Post by Peter April 11, 2006 (7 of 11)
tommwi said:

Thanks for this welcome. I'm not sure I can contribute that much though...

/Tommy

Actually, you have. When you said the Tchaik 6 was divided violins, I went to HM's website and found you could listen to bits, and I discovered that 4 and 5 are divided, too. In many cases, divided violins makes more sense of the music, which is why Kubelik's Beethoven cycle for one is one of my favourites. Three of the symphonies are available on SACD from DG Japan, well worth seeking out, and the 6th had a justifiably excellent review by Alex on this site. How I wish DG would distribute the Japanese issues world-wide! I'd pay full price locally.

Post by sunnydaler January 15, 2011 (8 of 11)
http://www.jr.com/product/classical/pc/_1132385/
they seem to have it in stock. 'Usually ships in 1 - 2 business days' UPC # 093046739461
"At the present time, we only ship to the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, U.S. territories, Puerto Rico, and Canada. J&R proudly ships to our Armed Forces APO/FPO customers."

Post by Windsurfer January 17, 2011 (9 of 11)
sunnydaler said:

http://www.jr.com/product/classical/pc/_1132385/
they seem to have it in stock. 'Usually ships in 1 - 2 business days' UPC # 093046739461
"At the present time, we only ship to the Continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, U.S. territories, Puerto Rico, and Canada. J&R proudly ships to our Armed Forces APO/FPO customers."

currently the site says this item is "out of stock"

Post by sunnydaler January 17, 2011 (10 of 11)
yes, it is 'out of stock' now until yesterday it said "'Usually ships in 1 - 2 business days". :-p

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