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Post by JohnProffitt September 7, 2015 (21 of 47)
I will consider DSD downloads when/if there is a multichannel DAC available at a reasonable price.

Post by Kal Rubinson September 7, 2015 (22 of 47)
JohnProffitt said:

I will consider DSD downloads when/if there is a multichannel DAC available at a reasonable price.

Is this reasonable enough?
http://www.minidsp.com/products/usb-audio-interface/u-dac8
Yes, I know it is PCM-only but how else can you implement adjustments for bass management, speaker level/distance and, even, EQ?

Kal

Post by Euell Neverno September 7, 2015 (23 of 47)
Kal Rubinson said:

. . . and, even, EQ?

Kal

Oh my, are you a tone control guy, Kal? You'll feel better if you come out of the closet on this. :-)

Post by Kal Rubinson September 7, 2015 (24 of 47)
Euell Neverno said:

Oh my, are you a tone control guy, Kal? You'll feel better if you come out of the closet on this. :-)

Where have you been? I have been a vocal advocate of roomEQ for years.

Post by Iain September 7, 2015 (25 of 47)
JohnProffitt said:

I will consider DSD downloads when/if there is a multichannel DAC available at a reasonable price.

I don't understand all the fuss over DAC's, when this will do what you require via USB:
http://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/blu-ray-disc-players/bdp-s7200

Read the specification section that defines playable file types on page 41 of the user manual, downloadable from here:
http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/product/BDP-S7200#Manuals

... and you'll understand what I'm on about.

If you're in North America, the Sony BDP-S6500 will do the same, which is play 2-channel or multi-channel .dff/.dsf files via USB port.

Much cheaper alternatives to expensive DAC's.

Post by Kal Rubinson September 7, 2015 (26 of 47)
Iain said:

I don't understand all the fuss over DAC's, when this will do what you require via USB:
http://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/blu-ray-disc-players/bdp-s7200

Read the specification section that defines playable file types on page 41 of the user manual, downloadable from here:
http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/product/BDP-S7200#Manuals

... and you'll understand what I'm on about.

If you're in North America, the Sony BDP-S6500 will do the same, which is play 2-channel or multi-channel .dff/.dsf files via USB port.

Much cheaper alternatives to expensive DAC's.

Understood. I have used my Oppos in similar ways. However, the ability to play these formats via USB is usually restricted to playing from a directly-connected drive. It is not clear to me from the manual if the Sony is any different in this matter.

As for the network connection of a disc player, that usually works best with the player initiating/controlling the file-play and that means using the player's app/GUI. Can one stream MCH from a server (not just stereo) to the Sony?

Post by bmoura September 7, 2015 (27 of 47)
Kal Rubinson said:

Understood. I have used my Oppos in similar ways. However, the ability to play these formats via USB is usually restricted to playing from a directly-connected drive. It is not clear to me from the manual if the Sony is any different in this matter.

Yes, the Oppo 103 and 105 disc players are a fine way to enjoy Multichannel DSD at a very affordable price. And these players are already in many homes.

Post by Euell Neverno September 8, 2015 (28 of 47)
Kal Rubinson said:

Where have you been? I have been a vocal advocate of roomEQ for years.

10-4 on that, so I assume then your reference to equalization is limited to compensation for listening room issues, although you do slso mention bass conrol. Superfluity does not vitiate, I suppose.

Post by Iain September 8, 2015 (29 of 47)
Kal Rubinson said:

Understood. I have used my Oppos in similar ways. However, the ability to play these formats via USB is usually restricted to playing from a directly-connected drive. It is not clear to me from the manual if the Sony is any different in this matter.

As for the network connection of a disc player, that usually works best with the player initiating/controlling the file-play and that means using the player's app/GUI. Can one stream MCH from a server (not just stereo) to the Sony?

WRT p.1, be mindful of the footnotes on that page.

WRT p2, I'll test that functionality when my BDP-S7200 arrives; at this point I'm not sure. I've recently evaluated JRiver Media Centre 20 as a DLNA server. It failed, because my Home Cinema is on a different subnet from MC20 server. MC20 will not traverse subnets.

I plan to test foobar2000 for this functionality when I get the time, as it's now my default media player. MC20 has went away.

Post by Iain September 8, 2015 (30 of 47)
bmoura said:

Yes, the Oppo 103 and 105 disc players are a fine way to enjoy Multichannel DSD at a very affordable price. And these players are already in many homes.

Be mindful of the fact that this Oppo functionality was added after the fact; at least 1-2 years after initial release of those machines.

WRT the Sony BDP-S6200, BDP-S7200 from 2014 and the current BDP-S6500, this intrinsic functionality is part of their initial design phase. Therefore, they should be more stable with faster operation due to their dual-core processors.

All Sony machines listed, have excellent build quality. You don't always get what you pay for here. Less IS more; Caveat Emptor!

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