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Discussion: Mendelssohn: Symphonies Nos. 4 & 5 - Munch

Posts: 3

Post by georgeflanagin July 28, 2006 (1 of 3)
Ramesh,

Good review. I just came home with this from Tower on Monday. I really enjoy the music making on this disc ... and for $9.99. To re-mis-quote Homer (Simpson) "What an age we live in."

Be warned; this is another of the SACD discs with really loud low frequency something or other. My conjecture is that the stage itself shakes, and the microphones recorded what is essentially a super size drum head reverberating from/with the music. We are not talking Leonard Bernstein's food stomping as he conducted; it's something large, infrasonic, and reminds me of my days living in earthquake country.

Several of these Munch/BSO recordings exhibit this thunder in the background. I am going to spend my weekend hacking a 20Hz high pass filter to see if I can clean up these things. Although I have had the subwoofer for six years, it is only recently that I have decided there is such a thing as "too low."

george

Post by tailspn July 28, 2006 (2 of 3)
georgeflanagin said:

Ramesh,



Be warned; this is another of the SACD discs with really loud low frequency something or other. My conjecture is that the stage itself shakes, and the microphones recorded what is essentially a super size drum head reverberating from/with the music.

You're right, the stage does vibrate. My guess is, if the rumble is occasional, it's the Greenline train that runs under Huntington Ave., at the back of Symphony Hall. You can feel it in your feet standing most anywhere in the hall. If it's more consistent, its truck and bus noise along Mass Ave, which runs the length of the hall. While Boston Symphony Hall is quite quiet on average (19dBA), there really is a big perceptual difference in the empty hall at 1 PM and 1 AM. In any case, its traffic noise, not A/C noise.

Tom

Post by georgeflanagin August 3, 2006 (3 of 3)
tailspn said:

You're right, the stage does vibrate. My guess is, if the rumble is occasional, it's the Greenline train that runs under Huntington Ave., at the back of Symphony Hall. You can feel it in your feet standing most anywhere in the hall. If it's more consistent, its truck and bus noise along Mass Ave, which runs the length of the hall. While Boston Symphony Hall is quite quiet on average (19dBA), there really is a big perceptual difference in the empty hall at 1 PM and 1 AM. In any case, its traffic noise, not A/C noise.

Tom

Hi Tom,

The rumble is somewhat "in sync" with the music, usually starting in the tuttis, and then continuing afterwards for two or three seconds, just dying away ...

The 20Hz high pass filter seems to help the situation quite a bit on this record, but not at all on the Couperin/Hewitt disc.

I enjoyed your comment about the difference between the sound of the empty hall at 1AM and 1PM. I always think my listening room is incredibly quiet .. right up until we have a power failure. And THEN it is quiet.

george

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