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Discussion: Penderecki: Horn Concerto, Violin Concerto No. 1 - Penderecki

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Post by Arthur May 6, 2010 (1 of 17)
Now HERE'S a must have!

Post by Windsurfer May 7, 2010 (2 of 17)
I saw your post, didn't notice that this was a Channel release and thought to myself - well maybe, maybe not. Then I noticed just now that this IS a Channel release and so I must echo your:

"HERE'S a must have!"

There is much implicit here. I don't know these artists from Adam. But I trust Jared, and so this has made my "wish list"!

Within the same stream of consciousness: Would that we could get PentaTone to do the Schnittke #4 with Arabella Steinbacher. Having talked to her last year, I know that she is especially fond of that particular Schnittke, that she had hoped to do it for her Chicago Symphony debut - but they were too conservative for that and she ended up doing the Sibelius instead.

I have previously posted this idea on the PentaTone thread, BTW, and I apologize if it seems less than totally appropriate here. I would love to garner some support for this among the posters to sa-cd.net Am I the only one here who knows the concerto?

Post by Arthur May 7, 2010 (3 of 17)
I'd be with you!

Post by krisjan May 7, 2010 (4 of 17)
Windsurfer said:

...the Schnittke #4... Am I the only one here who knows the concerto?

I have all of the Schnittke series on BIS RBCD which of course includes the 4th violin concerto (coupled with #3 on BIS 527). That one's enough for me.

Post by Windsurfer May 7, 2010 (5 of 17)
krisjan said:

I have all of the Schnittke series on BIS RBCD which of course includes the 4th violin concerto (coupled with #3 on BIS 527). That one's enough for me.

I first heard this concerto during a live concert on the radio. Gidon Kremer was the soloist. I don't recall the orchestra and conductor. My personal reaction to it was uncertain at first, but my 16 yr old son thought it was profound. I later came to agree with him and purchased Lubotsky's BIS recording for him for a birthday gift. Neither of us was as impressed with that recording as we were by the Kremer live concert. Lubotsky certainly has the credentials to play Schnittke but based on my experience, the BIS recording of the 4th concerto lacks conviction.

Further, a modern multi-channel sacd would far more easily convey the terrifying cataclysm a few moments into the first movement and the subsequent sense of hope and rebuilding that is inherent in the music.

Post by Fugue June 18, 2010 (6 of 17)
I just received my copy today-wow! It's a musical and audio triumph. The old Eidinger on Thorfon sounds almost as if it were recorded in mono compared to the width and depth of this new one. The soloist is new to me, but he vigorously attacks what must be a fearfully difficult solo part. He is clearly audible without being unduly spotlit. I haven't listened to the Horn Concerto yet.

Post by Johnno June 19, 2010 (7 of 17)
I have just received my copy and took it up to my friend Ian's who has a multichannel system. Both works were new to me and I guess, of the two, the horn concerto is the more instantly approachable. Nevertheless, I enjoyed hearing both works and the playing of both soloists and orchestra seemed superb, while both recordings seemed to be beyond reproach and definitely up to Channel's usually high standard.

I look forward to listening to it in stereo on my somewhat higher resolution system.

Any plans for more Penderecki, Jared? I'd love the first symphony that Penderecki recorded with the London Symphony Orchestra many years ago when, if memory serves me correctly, it was the only one he had written up to that time (1970s, I think). I don't think it would occupy a full SACD so perhaps it could be coupled with a later symphony, none of which I've heard.

Post by RWetmore June 21, 2010 (8 of 17)
Can someone check the booklet? Does this one use the Grimm converter?

Post by diw June 21, 2010 (9 of 17)
I was wondering how long it would take you to ask

Post by Fugue June 21, 2010 (10 of 17)
RWetmore said:

Can someone check the booklet? Does this one use the Grimm converter?

The Violin Concerto used a Meitner, the Horn Concerto used a Grimm.

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