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Discussion: Tchaikovsky: Symphony "Manfred" - Macal

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Post by flyingdutchman July 2, 2010 (1 of 12)
Here's one to look forward to.

Post by Arthur July 2, 2010 (2 of 12)
I've enjoyed his cycle so far. I like the Czech orchestra. I thought Exton was going back to all stereo issues, but it looks like a surround logo on the front.

Post by zeus July 2, 2010 (3 of 12)
Arthur said:

I thought Exton was going back to all stereo issues, but it looks like a surround logo on the front.

"HQ" (in Exton's parlance) means Stereo.

Post by flyingdutchman July 2, 2010 (4 of 12)
I'll likely get this one instead of the Kitajenko release, perhaps when I am in Tokyo in November. I have the Macal Tchaikovsky 1st. Despite a somewhat resonant recording, I prefer Macal's energy to what I think is the alternative to Kitajenko's turgidity.

Post by hiredfox August 27, 2010 (5 of 12)
You may all relax, this is a superb recording and a far better interpretation than perhaps is the norm for Macal, Admittedly the first movement can appear a little ponderous and uncertain in places, on the other hand I've not heard a good one yet but thereafter Macal picks up the pace and the mood and delivers a performance overall that leaves little wanting and is at least a match for the acclaimed versions of Litton and Jaarvi.

"Manfred" is problematic for performers and listeners alike so perfection should not be an unrealistic expectation. At £35 it is not a bargain but if you want a SACD version there isn't much else to choose from and nothing better.

Post by Daland August 27, 2010 (6 of 12)
hiredfox said:

"Manfred" is problematic for performers and listeners alike so perfection should not be an unrealistic expectation.

In other words: It is realistic to expect perfection because the work is problematic for performers and listeners alike. Doesn't make sense to me.

Post by flyingdutchman August 27, 2010 (7 of 12)
I didn't know there was a version of Jarvi doing Manfred let alone an acclaimed version of Jarvi doing Manfred. Am I missing something? Or do you mean Janson's Manfred?

And I would never put Litton's version above a lot of others out there. There has to be a better standard to compare this to.

Post by Arthur August 27, 2010 (8 of 12)
Lack of a great Manfred made me break down and try the Petrenko on RBCD. It's interesting! Such a shame Naxos gave up on SACD!

Post by peteyspambucket August 27, 2010 (9 of 12)
The best Manfred interpretation I have heard on recordings is the ancient version from the USSR Symphony with Yevgeny Svetlanov. Highly recommended!

Post by Castor August 27, 2010 (10 of 12)
Daland said:

In other words: It is realistic to expect perfection because the work is problematic for performers and listeners alike. Doesn't make sense to me.

I think hiredfox meant that:
'It is unrealistic to expect perfection because the work is problematic for listeners alike'
or
"Manfred" is problematic for performers and listeners alike so perfection should not be a realistic expectation.

If neither of the above is correct then I join you in thinking it makes no sense.

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