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Discussion: Liszt: Années de Pélerinage, Premiére année - Yoram Ish-Hurwitz

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Post by SteelyTom January 21, 2012 (1 of 27)
Anyone care to comment on Ish-Hurwitz's traversal of AdP? Looks like we have an identically-worded, cut-and-paste review posted for each of the three Turtle Records discs making up his cycle.

I own and enjoy Ish-Hurwitz's Albeniz records, and wonder how he compares with Kempf, Berman, Jando et al. in the Liszt.

Post by Celebidache2000 January 23, 2012 (2 of 27)
Everytime I hear these recordings, my response is, "wow!"

I have never heard a better recording of Liszt "Les Annees de Pelerinage." In fact I have never heard a better recording of the instrument itself.

The sonics...I just don't have the right adjectives to do them justice...its like sitting in the first couple of rows at a live concert...the piano just sounds so natural and realistic.

The performance is by turns lyric, poetic, coruscating and volcanic...reflecting a galaxy of moods and emotions.

I love these recordings...my only disappointment in them being the omission of the "Venezia et Napoli" supplement. I'm greedy.

Post by Fugue January 23, 2012 (3 of 27)
Celebidache2000 said:

Everytime I hear these recordings, my response is, "wow!"

I have never heard a better recording of Liszt "Les Annees de Pelerinage." In fact I have never heard a better recording of the instrument itself.

The sonics...I just don't have the right adjectives to do them justice...its like sitting in the first couple of rows at a live concert...the piano just sounds so natural and realistic.

The performance is by turns lyric, poetic, coruscating and volcanic...reflecting a galaxy of moods and emotions.

I love these recordings...my only disappointment in them being the omission of the "Venezia et Napoli" supplement. I'm greedy.

That's very encouraging, as I recently ordered it! Based on the 30 second snippet on Amazon, his "Orage" seems a bit less intense than Berman's, but maybe it builds throughout.

Post by Celebidache2000 January 23, 2012 (4 of 27)
I love Berman too, but Berman's recorded quality sounds rather poor (glittery, clattery, opaque, lacking focus and weight) in comparison to that given Ish-Hurwitz (state of the art).

Post by SteelyTom January 23, 2012 (5 of 27)
I agree about the sound on the Berman recordings, which is passable, analogue PCM but doesn't do Berman's sonority justice. Sonically and interpretatively, I prefer Jando on Naxos, heretical though that may be.

As for the sound on Ish-Hurwitz's records: I'm addicted to anything Northstar does for Challenge and Turtle. His Albeniz recordings are also extraordinary, simply as piano sound. Northstar's efforts for Challenge- Wolf and Schubert lieder, Wagner's Parsifal, Beethoven quartets, Michael Gees's album ImproviSatie- are also sonic wonders.

Thanks for the feedback. It's very hard to find anything online about YI-H's Liszt records.

Post by Fugue January 26, 2012 (6 of 27)
My set (I bought all three) arrived today. It's quite stunning, both sonically and musically. It's hard to compare to Berman's since Ish-Hurwitz's has such overwhelming superior sound! In fact, it's even better than his Albeniz recordings, which were made in a studio, and the Liszt was recorded in a church, so the acoustic is richer and more open. His playing is magnificent, too. The big passages are very dramatic (Amazon's snippets wildly reduce the impact!) and the soft passages simply sparkle. Overall, I don't think he yields much of anything to Berman, who has always been one of my favorites. Maybe if Berman were accorded such amazing sound the balance might shift to him in certain passages, but I can't imagine that anyone would not be satisfied with Ish-Hurwitz.

Post by SteelyTom January 26, 2012 (7 of 27)
Wow, thanks for the review. Sounds like Ish-Hurwitz has been given an exceptional recording, while Berman got perhaps an average recording by the standards of the seventies. That's a pretty dramatic difference.

Post by Fugue January 26, 2012 (8 of 27)
SteelyTom said:

Wow, thanks for the review. Sounds like Ish-Hurwitz has been given an exceptional recording, while Berman got perhaps an average recording by the standards of the seventies. That's a pretty dramatic difference.

Berman's sounded pretty great back in 1977 on LP. I don't think the RBCD iteration did it any favors. Maybe if it were transferred today from the original analog master via a DSD system then it might sound better, but it will never match the power and impact of Ish-Hurwitz's audio.

Post by Celebidache2000 January 27, 2012 (9 of 27)
Fugue said:

Berman's sounded pretty great back in 1977 on LP. I don't think the RBCD iteration did it any favors. Maybe if it were transferred today from the original analog master via a DSD system then it might sound better, but it will never match the power and impact of Ish-Hurwitz's audio.

I was thinking the same thing.

I used to have the original LP and it sounded much, much better than the RBCD.

The early-80's digital conversion for CD, seems to shroud Berman's performance in a fog of digital grunge. The firmness and presence of the original recording vanished in the CD conversion.

I think that Berman's set would make a prime candidate for one of the SHM-SACD releases.

Post by Fugue January 27, 2012 (10 of 27)
Celebidache2000 said:

I was thinking the same thing.

I used to have the original LP and it sounded much, much better than the RBCD.

The early-80's digital conversion for CD, seems to shroud Berman's performance in a fog of digital grunge. The firmness and presence of the original recording vanished in the CD conversion.

I think that Berman's set would make a prime candidate for one of the SHM-SACD releases.

Or better yet, a Pentatone Quad release--if were originally recorded in quad, which it wasn't. :-(

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