Thread: Caro Mitis

Posts: 47
Page: prev 1 2 3 4 5

Post by Disbeliever September 10, 2015 (41 of 47)
Hi Groot, I have played my 5.0 system with equal level sound from front & rear speakers, I find I have to turn the volume from the rears DOWN I sit equidistant from the speakers. As I have said previously I can not tolerate hearing music from rear speakers.

Post by bmoura September 10, 2015 (42 of 47)
GROOT GELUID said:

To look at rear speakers in a playback system simply as to add something (“subtle background ambience???”) to the front speakers is not doing justice to the potential the combination of 5 (in this case) speakers have to reproduce specifically designed recordings for such a system. You probably (hopefully?) would not regard the left speaker in a 2 channel set up to, only provide some subtle acoustic sounds from sources that are coming from the right loudspeaker? As that is exactly similar to what you are saying about the rears in a surround set up.

In most of my recordings you will notice that the recorded volume is almost the same over all channels. And that way you achieve more audio quality when played back over 5 ‘equal loud set up’ loudspeakers, compared to a stereo mix or a bad mixed “rear ambience added on stereo (lazy)” surround recording.

My listening results mirror what Erdo is saying. For Multichannel, matched speakers and amps is the way to go for all Multichannel recordings.

Post by Iain September 10, 2015 (43 of 47)
bmoura said:

My listening results mirror what Erdo is saying. For Multichannel, matched speakers and amps is the way to go for all Multichannel recordings.

Or smaller versions of front speakers for rear speakers implementation, should work fine.

However, the larger problems are mastering rear level inconsistencies between titles or even between tracks for worst case scenarios.

Post by GROOT GELUID September 10, 2015 (44 of 47)
Iain said:

Or smaller versions of front speakers for rear speakers implementation, should work fine.

However, the larger problems are mastering rear level inconsistencies between titles or even between tracks for worst case scenarios.

I hope you agree that this does not apply to the items of the thread name.

For you who do not know this one yet: From the primephonic website CM0092004 and
try out track 12 Improvisation and Fugue. with 5 channel surround and equal loudness from your speakers there is sound coming from all speakers, but the piano is in front of you. Yet a vast difference between surround and stereo.....
This track may bring out the limits of your system.

Post by Iain September 10, 2015 (45 of 47)
GROOT GELUID said:

I hope you agree that this does not apply to the items of the thread name.

For you who do not know this one yet: From the primephonic website CM0092004 and
try out track 12 Improvisation and Fugue. with 5 channel surround and equal loudness from your speakers there is sound coming from all speakers, but the piano is in front of you. Yet a vast difference between surround and stereo.....
This track may bring out the limits of your system.

Quite right WRT p.1.

There was no intent to denigrate any specific label. It was simply a general statement.

Post by GROOT GELUID September 11, 2015 (46 of 47)
Disbeliever said:
As I have said previously I can not tolerate hearing music from rear speakers.

Then I advise you not to go to opera houses as many instruments are only heard via reflections (they are deep in the orchestra pit) and you often hear them from high up and/or behind. Same happens in many concert halls.

The idea with 5 channel speaker set up is to use the sound all speakers reproduce to recreate a soundfield. This is not perfect but for many important quality factors we apprecriate in sound reproduction, it works much better than using only 2 speakers to recreate this impression for the listener.

But I know people who really only like to listen to old 78's gramophone horn reproduced musical sounds (definetely only music coming from the one side. The front if you face it) What you are used to is often what you like....

Post by Disbeliever September 11, 2015 (47 of 47)
GROOT GELUID said:

Then I advise you not to go to opera houses as many instruments are only heard via reflections (they are deep in the orchestra pit) and you often hear them from high up and/or behind. Same happens in many concert halls.

The idea with 5 channel speaker set up is to use the sound all speakers reproduce to recreate a soundfield. This is not perfect but for many important quality factors we apprecriate in sound reproduction, it works much better than using only 2 speakers to recreate this impression for the listener.

But I know people who really only like to listen to old 78's gramophone horn reproduced musical sounds (definetely only music coming from the one side. The front if you face it) What you are used to is often what you like....

I have been to Covent Gdn Opera House, Royal Festival Hall, Barbican etc , never been aware of any reflected direct sound coming from behind my seating position. Obviously I accept rear sound effects
from H.T. movies where it is meant to be,

Page: prev 1 2 3 4 5

Closed