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Post by zeus July 30, 2008 (1 of 11)
With Genesis: The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway now available for pre-order, the set is now complete:

/genesis.php

For those interested, Black Sabbath's Paranoid is also showing up for October release. I have no further information. Please do not post online vendor sightings ... I'll add links when I can confirm details.

Post by terence July 30, 2008 (2 of 11)
Black Sabbath's Paranoid is also showing up for October release.
showing up as SACD stereo only or multichannel?

Post by rammiepie July 30, 2008 (3 of 11)
zeus said:

With Genesis: The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway now available for pre-order, the set is now complete:

/genesis.php

For those interested, Black Sabbath's Paranoid is also showing up for October release. I have no further information. Please do not post online vendor sightings ... I'll add links when I can confirm details.

I just visited the CD Universe website and the accompanying DVD's are PAL. I believe that NTSC DVDs will be available with the SACDs in September.

Post by mystic fred August 12, 2008 (4 of 11)
Paranoid is expanded to a triple-disc containing the extremely rare 1974 Quadrophonic mix of the album. The album also includes deluxe digipak gatefold packaging with expanded booklets containing rare and previously unseen photographs, comprehensive sleeve-notes telling the story behind each album and include images of rare single covers and memorabilia from the period.

Paranoid is the first release in a set of Black Sabbath deluxe expanded editions. Each remastered album includes an additional disc of previously unheard outtakes, demos and instrumental tracks taken from the original studio sessions.


Disc 1

1. War Pigs 2. Paranoid 3. Planet Caravan 4. Iron Man 5. Electric Funeral 6. Hand Of Doom 7. Rat Salad 8. Fairies Wear Boots



Disc 2

1. War Pigs (Instrumental and No Siren) 2. Paranoid (Alternative Lyrics) 3. Planet Caravan (Alternative Lyrics) 4. Iron Man (Instrumental) 5. Electric Funeral (Instrumental) 6. Hand Of Doom (Instrumental) 7. Rat Salad (Instrumental) 8. Fairies Wear Boots (Instrumental)



Disc 3

1. War Pigs (SACD Stereo) 2. Paranoid (SACD Stereo) 3. Planet Caravan (SACD Stereo) 4. Iron Man (SACD Stereo) 5. Electric Funeral (SACD Stereo) 6. Hand Of Doom (SACD Stereo) 7. Rat Salad (SACD Stereo) 8. Fairies Wear Boots (SACD Stereo)9. War Pigs (Quadraphonic Mix) 10. Paranoid (Quadraphonic Mix) 11. Planet Caravan (Quadraphonic Mix) 12. Iron Man (Quadraphonic Mix) 13. Electric Funeral (Quadraphonic Mix) 14. Hand Of Doom (Quadraphonic Mix) 15. Rat Salad (Quadraphonic Mix) 16. Fairies Wear Boots (Quadraphonic Mix)

Post by crsearle August 12, 2008 (5 of 11)
There was another thread about Paranoid that didn't get very far.

/showthread/30096//y?page=first

I'm still skeptical it is really going to be an SACD release but I'll be more than happy to be proven wrong. :)

Post by rammiepie August 13, 2008 (6 of 11)
Genesis' masterwork "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" as per Amazon's latest listing will be released on September 30, 2008 for $41.99 in SACD multi-channel with the accompanying NTSC DVD

Post by rammiepie August 20, 2008 (7 of 11)
rammiepie said:

Genesis' masterwork "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" as per Amazon's latest listing will be released on September 30, 2008 for $41.99 in SACD multi-channel with the accompanying NTSC DVD

Music direct has the five pack (Trespass, Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England By the Pound and the Lamb Lies Down on Broadway) listed for $129.95 ($26 each) but they don't list a release date (5 SACDs and 5 DVDs NTSC)....but am assuming that September 30th might be a reality

Post by mystic fred September 4, 2008 (8 of 11)
I was looking forward to the release of the Gabriel era Genesis albums remixed on SACD when i noticed these reviews proliferating on Amazon uk -


"Nick Davis used to be a great engineer... what happened?, 1 Aug 2008
By Jamie Tate (Hermitage, TN United States) - See all my reviews


Nick Davis has done amazing work in the past. Actually, ALL of his work up until these Genesis remixes was excellent! Has he lost his touch? Why do these Genesis sets sound so harsh? I wonder what Nick's reasoning for this is? Does he even realize this work is much worse than what he's capable of? He's a world class engineer so why did he make so many newbie mistakes with these Genesis remixes? Too much EQ? Really? That's what interns do when they're learning how to mix.

It's not the compression that makes these remixes bad, it's all the console EQ that was added that makes them sound shrill and hollow. Lots of top and bottom end boosting going on. I know that sound well from my early days of learning how to mix (on this same SSL console I might add). I was trying to make everything as punchy and aggressive as I could and my mixes came out sounding just like these Genesis remixes. When you have that much EQ on EVERYTHING things are going to sound a bit off.

Those SSL EQs have a very distinct sound to them, so do the compressors on the channel strips. Nick Davis just wanted these things to jump out at you and in the process he over-did everything. I think he was simply trying too hard to impress everyone with brute force and not sound quality. If you dig it, good for you. I can heard the EQs ringing and that really bothers me but the lack of good midrange and the shrill top end make my ears shut down.

As a Grammy award winning recordings engineer myself I can't say I'm looking forward to reading more rave reviews of these dreadful remixes. "


surely he means the CD layer and not the SACD mix, as previous releases have been favourable...?

Post by The Seventh Taylor September 5, 2008 (9 of 11)
mystic fred said:

surely he means the CD layer and not the SACD mix, as previous releases have been favourable...?

Have they? I recall reading precisely that sort of comments about the SACD mix of the earlier releases: too much compression.

See /showthread/19694/21945/y#21945 for instance.

Post by Nightingale September 21, 2008 (10 of 11)
Interesting information http://pediaview.com/openpedia/Genesis_1970-1975.
3 live Box Sets 1970-1975, 1976-1982 and 1983-2007 will follow the 3 studio releases in 2009/10. SACD's???

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