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Discussion: Mahler: Symphony No. 4 - Honeck

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Post by sunnydaler December 10, 2010 (1 of 24)

Post by Chalkperson December 10, 2010 (2 of 24)
sunnydaler said:

http://www.classicstoday.com/review.asp?ReviewNum=13105

http://www.classicstodayfrance.com/review.asp?ReviewNum=3842

has anyone heard this?

Yes, I have it, a wonderful disc, great attention to detail, it's as good as his previous release of the First Symphony...

Post by jdaniel December 10, 2010 (3 of 24)
Chalkperson said:

Yes, I have it, a wonderful disc, great attention to detail, it's as good as his previous release of the First Symphony...

Now we have 4 (?) "excellent" Mahler 4ths it seems. Which one bubbles to the top?

Post by wehecht December 10, 2010 (4 of 24)
jdaniel said:

Now we have 4 (?) "excellent" Mahler 4ths it seems. Which one bubbles to the top?

Well if you're a multichannel listener like I am Honeck is out, no matter what its other virtues. I have MTT, Haitink, and Fischer, all at least very good, but if I had to have just one it'd be Fischer because of the sublime performance of Miah Persson.

Post by gavindixon March 23, 2011 (5 of 24)
The audio is excellent, although the amplified bass sounds a little synthetic. The performance really concentrates on the details, which occasionally feels laboured.
http://www.classical-cd-reviews.com/2011/03/mahler-4-honeck-pittsburgh-symphony.html

Post by hiredfox July 21, 2012 (6 of 24)
Why has this shown up again as a recent release? It has been available for most of this year.

Post by SteelyTom July 21, 2012 (7 of 24)
How much of a negative, sonically, is Exton's post-production bass boost?

Post by Euell Neverno July 21, 2012 (8 of 24)
SteelyTom said:

How much of a negative, sonically, is Exton's post-production bass boost?

Why would we assume there is post-production bass boost, rather than mic location or some other cause for low end fullness? If the occasional overpowered bass drum is the issue, then there probably is a mic nearby and that channel is mixed in rather more substantially than normal listening. I believe that is known as the Telarc technique.

Post by current93 July 21, 2012 (9 of 24)
hiredfox said:

Why has this shown up again as a recent release? It has been available for most of this year.

The new release is priced-up single layer reissue(3500 vs 3000 yen for previous HQ stereo SACD/CD hybrid).

By all means this SACD is the best perfomance- and sound-wise of all I have. Bravo to all involved - Maestro Honeck, Pittsburgh Orchestra musicians, Soundmirror and Exton recording team. Before this one I've never known that Mahler 4 could be real wall-shaker.

Post by tailspn July 21, 2012 (10 of 24)
Euell Neverno said:

Why would we assume there is post-production bass boost, rather than mic location or some other cause for low end fullness? If the occasional overpowered bass drum is the issue, then there probably is a mic nearby and that channel is mixed in rather more substantially than normal listening. I believe that is known as the Telarc technique.

If it sounds like you can feel the skin of the drum, the thwack of the stick, then you're correct. If it's a big ill defined boom, then it's usually EQ. The original Jack Renner "Telarc" technique actually was to turn the bass drum 90 degrees, so the face of the drum faced the mics in front. They didn't use EQ, as you pointed out.

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